Add to this that beta blockers worsen my asthma. Also, there are some areas that are clearly far better these days. Does anybody know if the Vantage V2 can do this again. I was hoping for a watch with more testing ability. Polar Vantage V hjälper dig att hitta rätt balans mellan träning och vila och att hålla dig skadefri med en unikt holistisk mätlösning för träningsbelastning och återhämtning. I don’t trust companies that make planned obsolescence. Again, you can tap to get more details there: And again, you can dive into sleep metrics from within the Polar Flow app as well: Generally, with the exception of today, I do find Polarâs sleep data pretty consistent with how Iâm feeling on any given day, as well as consistent with the actual times I went to sleep and woke up. Det är en av de 100 mest populära produkterna i kategorin Pulsklockor & sportklockor med ett genomsnittligt betyg på 3.3 av 5. Things like activity tracking, sleep tracking, the new music control, as well as other usage bits. First, on my other runs last week using the Running Index scoring system I scored 63 for my VO2Max scores: So, thatâs quite a drop (way more than would normally be seen). So only time ahead/behind, rolling (I believe) pace, and distance left is shown. It could be easily fixed but instead you get two additional watch faces. I would like to know if the Vantage V2 has the same big flaw. â Added Music Controls for Phone: Controls music on your phone (thereâs no music storage on Vantage V2) The FR745 was in running track mode, so itâs even scarier how close it is. For real? No problem, the product comparison data is constantly updated with new products and new features added to old products! Race pace is the same as on V1. More info when pressing lap or pause button would be welcome as well. Polar Vantage V afløser Polar's tidligere topmodel Polar V800, og Polar har virkelig gjort sit forarbejde i forbindelse med udviklingen af Polar Vantage serien grundigt. I complained. â Added 100-hour GPS tracking mode: This power-saving mode reduces track points to increase activity length For side by side V1 vs V2 HR, I can see if there’s time to fit that in. Pace on the treadmill is simply easy to control during a test like this; beside the fact that ventilation inside may completely different. It’s going to be painful but inevitable I feel and the new Qualcomm processor is probably the enabler. Over the years, Iâve continued to tweak my GPS testing methodology. For example, I donât place two units next to each other on my wrists, as that can impact signal. ð. Youâll see a single red line across the infield â thatâs my fault. I say âcurrentlyâ, because somewhat interestingly thatâs the very specific wording that Polarâs PR team used when discussing it â specifically saying (an exact quote) âNo, there are currently no payment solutions included in Polar Vantage V2.â, whereas on other music storage related questions, it was a much more definitive âNoâ. The bottom line is I like how polar, in a way, is forcing the dedicated testing because after all we train to get better test results and thus faster as endurance athletes. Polar has had some good watches in this range in the past – M400/430 as one example, and I’d hate to see them abandon it, but I imagine it’s hard to price a watch at $250 and compete with both the Apple Watch Series 3 (200) and the Garmin 245 series. You are not able to do really long rides with the AW. Right now, you can’t even select a power zones when you create a staged workout in polar flow, you can only select power and pace zones. By default itâs Nightly Recharge, but you can change it in the settings: However, selecting Recovery Pro means that youâll need to break out that chest strap at least three mornings per week and do the Orthostatic test. The Garmin gives a rating for the exertion level as well. Is it worth it to upgrade to this or a comparable Garmin? It is by all definitions a modest update, both in terms of software â but also hardware, with only slight changes to the watchâs exterior design â albeit a significant reduction of weight. For me, at least. Thereâs basically three components to this: Training Load, Cardio Load, and Muscle Load. â Added Energy Sources: Shows breakdown of carbs/fats/protein usage post-workout on watch/app Never had a V800 though, so can’t compare. So it was good enough for me. Hello. – Zone Pointer for power/speed zone-based workouts. Lack of containment! Are you releasing the fitibit versa 3 review this week? You’ll then see the name/power target at the beginning of each zone (and even during, I believe). In any case, I set my weight in stryd as 125% my body weight, and now both power calculations are very similar. See attached options. Thanks for your input … will hold off on V2 until further notice or anyone want a gritx ð. Speed sensors are primarily useful for offroad usage. Polar Vantage M - Hitta lägsta pris hos PriceRunner Jämför priser (uppdaterade idag) från 40 butiker Betala inte för mycket - SPARA på ditt inköp nu! It’s funny, I sat there one night pressing buttons between all three units – and ya know what: Aside from vibrations, it’s really tough to tell. And since polar displays running power on the wrist you will definitely want to create structured power based zones when polar makes that available! Nightly Recharge basically does this link to support.polar.com , but note that it detects periods when you’re more stressed compared to your 28 day average, rather than stressed all the time. If you are using RunGap and have one of Polar devices that support Training Load Pro (like V1 or Grit or whatever), when you import via RunGap, the workouts should get TRIMP scores and be displayed in Cardio Load report. Today Polar has announced the Vantage V2, a touch bit over two years since they announced the initial Polar Vantage V & M series watches. I also use Ellite Suito and these speeds drive me crazy. Some minor distance deviations found, too. If the deviation is more than 7% lower, itâs determined that your legs arenât fully recovered. I donât care for swim metrics at all and on an occasional biking session GPS is all I need. ð. Is it possible that the RR interval (HRV) can now be displayed on the watch again during training? And if you go off trail youâll get a notice of that too. On the right side, GPS accuracy was perfectly fine: For this route I was over at an outdoor cycling track, that loops around and around. It’s always a bit tough to tell, since one has to balance how much GPS time you’re putting into it, and, in my case how many random filming/etc time as well. Polar webpage says that V2 has this function, but is there any difference between its implementation into V1 and V2? This is in addition to the previously existing tests of: Weâll just dive right into them, with the Running Performance Test. Polar Vantage M (or V) This is a comparison of a longer workout. 1st ascent). My main focus would be running, trail running and hiking. Now i know how polar call in cycling prifil “power smoothing”. Weather syncs from your phone and is nice. Genom att klicka på Prenumerera, samtycker du till att motta e-postmeddelanden från Polar och bekräftar att du har läst vårt integritetsmeddelande * Koden kan inte kombineras med andra erbjudanden. All told, the only thing tying me to Polar at all, is Flow, and it can certainly be replaced now, might not be as elegant, but since I can’t pair my v800, or any Polar watch, reliably to my new Kickr Core without data going into the bin or doubling power, etc, I’m using non-Flow sync devices (Stages Dash bike computer, Zwift directly, etc) for capture, so the less “Flowing” into the Polar ecosystem reliably, the less reason to stay there…. I can get better pace accuracy from my Stryd, or sensors on my bike, than the GPS can hope for. Itâs not even six month old FFS. So no first hand experience with Vantage V1. My Forerunner 935 developed some flaws over the last months â Elevation is to high in 95% of the time and sometimes totally off (up to 250% increase), heart rate readings are inaccurate especially in colder conditions (I had a intervall session this week and always when I picked up the pace for my 1200m reps the HR actually fell down for the time of the rep. Interestingly the watch seemed to catch the right HR again everytime I finished a rep and got into the rest phase). I do think the V2 look is nicer than the V1 look though, so that may sway things. It will likely be the last Polar I own. At $300, this might be closer to competitive, but it’s not a “high-end” product feature set, it’s barely mid-grade, when compared to it’s competition. This watch has it all. No, they’re disabled here as well during workouts. I think it’s actually better to not have so much features or even great smart phone notification support on a watch as it’s just super distracting to have a watch buzz you all the time. dcrainmaker /2018/12/polar-vantage-v-multisport-review.html It’s a basic cardio profile named indoor rowing. I’m sick of companies trying to compete with an Apple watch by rolling out tons of frivolous new features while raising prices. So itâs a good test of repeatability, and things were spot-on then. Was really hoping that Polar in developing the V2 would appeal to their original userbase and fill in the gaps with the v800. Recovery Pro uses orthostatic test and Training Load Pro for its analysis. This sucked, because FTP tests are no fun â and further, youâve set aside time for doing it, time away from a normally scheduled workout (including the lead-up to it). Why not give Coros a try? Nope, you can’t. The Polar OH1 and HRM-PRO were basically identical there. Storlekar: S: omkrets runt handleden 130â185 mm ⦠I like the feel of the green band and the look of it with the dark aluminum frame. I agree is it a pain though to retest and I have been trying to dive through the literature to determine the true potential for first beat and others to quantify training load. Where I think Polar really has a compelling case is that $199-$279 price point where someone wants something sport-focused, but doesn’t really want to spend for a Garmin, and doesn’t really want an Apple Watch, and needs something more than a Fitbit. So all good and acceptable there. I kept my hopes out, but it’s clear, when my current crop of Polar watches (2x v800s, M430) die, they’ll be replaced by another brand, and that’s NOT what I’ve ever wanted. Great review as usual. I’ve noticed that in the long run with these watches, I mainly stop using the mobile apps or web apps anyway so it’s nice to get the info straight from the watch (daily). Now you donât need his opinion because of all the detail but because all the data is there you see you can trust his opinion (though not always agree with it but thatâs personal preference). In real magnetic compass there is no need for calibrating. Has anyone tried to transfer a Stryd trainings plan to polar flow and train accordingly with the Vantage V2? The navigation function of the V800 was smart enough to ask you if it should reverse the track when you turned around. Verktygen för mätning av träningsbelastning och återhämtning hjälper dig optimera träningen och undvika överträning. Because I don’t see that anywhere in Polar’s test description or reviews. GPS accuracy can be looked at in a number of different ways, but I prefer to look at it using a number of devices in real-world scenarios across a vast number of activities. I use 2-6 other devices at once, trying to get a clear picture of how a given set of devices handles conditions on a certain day. Conditions include everything from tree/building cover to weather. Polar Vantage V: n/a Ik laad snel wat foto’s op. The FR645 came out January 2018 (though, didn’t start shipping till early Mar 2018). in comparison to V800. They can’t offer what Garmin can such as onboard music so surely it would make sense to keep customers happy !! Suunto 9 Baro: Magnetic. Usually the sync process takes about 20-40 seconds via computer, or about 30-60 seconds via Bluetooth Smart. The reviews generally take a lot of hours to put together, so itâs a fair bit of work (and labor of love). In any event, thereâs also a slight vibration each time you press a button. In your opinion which has the most value for money (struggling to justify the extra bucks for the 945) and secondly which is the most accurate in terms of triathlon data? I genuinely (I really do) want a proper running / sports watch, but I feel spending £400-500 on a garmin or polar is pointless as I am buying old tech dressed up in newer colours. Dag Pieter, Den har 50 meters vattenresistens, Bluetooth, platstjänster och lång batteritid. For example, the way Flow (or Polar more generally) calculates cardio load is just plain silly, for anyone that’s not super-consistent with training. Interesting review as always, many thanks agin. Itâs much easier if the treadmill displays METS because then you would just multiple by 3.5 to get VO2. Used to have a Fitbit Charge 3 and after that the Versa 2. I’m interested in testing the V2 but want my workouts to be up to date in polar flow. No matter how long an uphill I can’t pass the limit of say 160 bbs. This may seem like a very small and unimportant feature, but this the one that keeps me from thinking about upgrading from my M430. Next, thereâs the weather page, which consistently tells me how terrible the weather is in Amsterdam. One of the new Vantage V2 options is the ability to choose your dashboards (or, watch face views as its called here). By comparison, watching you struggle on the video with the new V2 is embarrassing for them. Dual ANT+/Bluetooth. Hi, do you know from which weather service the Flow app gets the weather data from? I travel a fair bit, both for work and for fun. Vantage does it well, all time of up to 10 hours trips which I love to ski and snowshoe walk in forests, on ice of lakes etc. Itâs also where you can configure power-saving settings to get the longer 100 hours of GPS battery life. Lighter weight is noticeable. That’s OK though because what’s there works and works well so they’ll (we?) How is it hardware-wise different from the Polar Vantage V (first gen)? Can you confirm it’s improved and what exactly is better vs V1? Well, atop that thereâs the Polar Training Load Pro. That fixed it all up I had no idea you could filter them! Next, thereâs the Cycling Performance Test. Thank you very much!! “Question: Will any features from the new Polar Vantage V2 be rolled out in a firmware to the Polar Grit Different chipsets and CPU, different GPS-module, OHR-LED’s etc etc, check out this channel, you’ll find what you are looking for. Oh, and free US shipping too! Finally, maybe run it by the doc about getting your heart rate that high. That’s all true, except for the phases of a phased workout. Your email address will not be published. No, still the same. I need accurate hr tracking. I was also told the “lap” screen will be expanded to include more data (HR, Power, Speed), so assuming that wasn’t a misunderstanding that’s great news for those like me who missed that feature from the v800! I have stacks of Polar watches, HR sensors, etc (at least the sensors are relatively brand-agnostic with the H10)… this isn’t trivial to me, it sucks but one can’t stay loyal to a dead horse forever. In the early V days, I had an issue when several workouts captured on V didn’t get TRIMP scores but got Polar legacy strain instead. Iâm a clinical student in exercise physiology and this is actually one of the challenges presented to us in prescribing exercise training to folks who are on beta blockers. Itâs as simple as that. For example, openwater swimming as seen in Garmin’s latest devices is just worlds ahead of anything we’ve *EVER* seen in the endurance sports world. I don’t want to buy extra services to get that data. Now with the Vantage V2 youâll get running power natively from the wrist, just as with the original Vantage V series (and the Grit X). Polar hits it on the simplicity where it’s easy to see the information about your recovery, training etc. Thanks for (as alway) great review, DC Rainmaker! You can tap to open it and get more on the strain and tolerance aspects (which Iâll also talk about later in the sports section). If I remember correctly, having read one of your reviews, Suunto have started down this path. DC Rainmaker can you tell us what wheel size you have provided to V2? And just in case there was any doubt on accuracy (or, lack thereof in one unit’s case): Moving along again, this time to an easier run. Vantage 2, Apex Pro and 945 are all in the same price range here in Germany right now. Lightweight and sleek Vantage V2 is from a different world compared to heavy and massive Fenix 5. No drop-outs or such. Do you have one linked in your Flow Online because I donât see it (have only the VV1 and v800 linked)? Hereâs that data: At a high level we see some slight differences. â Increased waterproof spec from 50m to 100m, to match the Grit X So sorry about the hard comments and you make great reviews. The rest is overseen. Also, do you have any idea when the Garmin 955 will be available? For most folks, a general-purpose watch like the Apple Watch is advisable because it can do so much more than the Polar Vantage V. There is some overlap on the workout functionality between the two watches but the Vantage V does it a lot better.  And to compliment that, here’s The Girl’s (my wife’s) list. Many thanks for the answer! The other thing to remember is you’d lose maps also (plus the music as you mentioned). Heart rate recording did not have any spikes (as seen in Grit X and some V2 users?) tells you, that VV1 has a magnetic compass? There you have your answers. Therefore Iâm thinking of ditching Garmin and go for an Apex Pro or the new Vantage V2. They close the official forum long ago after it was like a ghost town for some years… Try Facebook, they have an official page allowing community posts. It seems that Garmin is the only one able to do this. By the way, this is my understanding of a smart watch. Furthermore I would guess that heart rate measuring are the key to analyse/set the thresholds. As a Vantage V owner I p*ssed that many of the functions could easily have been added to the original Vantage V, as they did with the V800. I enjoyed the m400 and v800, the rest were a big disappointment. I swim, bike and run. These marks on bezel at position 8:30 on each photo… is this kind of mechanical damage? Somehow polar missed to intrgrate this into the Vantage V. I use ergData, and the c2 ciq app with my Concept2 since my Garmin 945 messes up stroke rate. I’m not sure. Here's a few other variants or sibling products that are worth considering: And finally, hereâs a handy list of accessories that work well with this unit (and some that I showed in the review). Loving your reviews Ray. The Vantage V2 does *NOT* have any music storage on it. In this case, I was using the Vantage V2 with the Polar OH1 Plus for the heart rate portion, so we wonât be evaluating that aspect as part of this set. During new watch release season (as it is right now), this stays pegged on âOverreachingâ. Looks not too robust.. And question for darker version… if there is any scratch, is there the same color “inside” the material or is it just dark surface and if removed, there is color of aluminium? Though do note with Komoot youâll need to have that region activated in Komoot (the point where the route starts), which might involve paying Komoot depending on if youâve activated any other regions already. This test technically has two components to it, but both are geared towards determining more accurately your VO2Max. I live in Sweden and since Polar is produced “next door” perhaps it’s optimized for our region. what can and what cannot be done with the platform? In general you see Garmin on a min two year cycle for Forerunners. I think that’d do exceptionally well. Grit X was released only just 6 months ago so it’s not that old. Dra full nytta av din Vantage V. Anslut till Polars ekosystem och få ut det mesta av din klocka. Can anyone confirm this? While the Fitbit Versa 3 spikes a few times around the 21 and 26 minute markers, both times after stopping at lights/etc and resuming running again. Last time there was the higher end Vantage V, and then the mid-range Vantage M (with less features, lesser materials). Today Polar has announced the Vantage V2, a touch bit over two years since they announced the initial Polar Vantage V & M series watches.Since that time those units have gotten numerous firmware updates (and even a Titanium version).However, earlier this year Polar signaled that it was the end of the line for the original Vantage V & M units in terms of new features. Like a new 245 or 645? Dennis nailed it. Next, letâs look at a track workout. Which, is basically an FTP test, and requires a power meter. Thereâs something called the ACSM VO2 formula which would allow you to put in the speed and grade to figure out what predicted VO2 workload youâre at. I am sure many people my age take beta blockers but I could not find a reliable source of how to deal with this issue. Interesting, so it seems hardly GPS/Pace-driven.
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